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lighting, keep working with him. Also, jump him on a lunge line and make sure your sitting behind the balence line for horses.
ParelliChick & Lady of the Mist
2013-03-08 15:02:09
Also, what kind of bit do you use? What kind of bits has he had used on him before? And what kind of mouth does he have? The other thing is, do you use a martingale or head-check?
I could help you out with any horsey questions!
Lemme know and I'll do my best to help! :)
Your Pal, Misty :)

Misty4ever & Ace
2013-03-09 07:24:46
And a great series(Other than the Pony Pals) is Heartland, Chestnut Hill, Sheltie (although it's more for kids), Pony Club Secrets, plus more but I can't think of any others atm! :)
Misty4ever & Ace
2013-03-09 07:27:30
Ok, I have a standing martingale, and, I use a pelham because he is really strong over fences and used to run out A LOT. He's been better about that though.
lighting1 & Patchwork Prince
2013-03-10 02:01:39
Ok, what sort of temperament does he have when he's not under saddle?
Misty4ever & Ace
2013-03-10 08:52:38
Sweet
lighting1 & Patchwork Prince
2013-03-11 02:14:28
Ok thanks.

So I would actually suggest this: try him in a hackamore. (bitless bridle) (or if you don't have one, a halter and lead rope tied around to use as reins.)

Don't be too shocked, I can explain! You see, in the past, when he hasn't responded, naturally, he is punished and harsher gear is used to try and make him do the right thing. But a horse is bigger than you, stronger than you, and probably at least the same if not more strong-willed than you. But he is not a nasty horse. He is a gentle, sweet-natured horse, as you said yourself.

Putting him in a hackamore, he is still as capable of the same bad behavior as he was in the Pelham, but this time, no-one is trying to force him to do the right thing. They are asking.
To work successfully with a horse, you must always be in charge, but you also must work with the horse, and talk to him in a way he can understand.

If you see a mare and foal in a field, you will never see her yanking him by the mouth to get him to turn to the direction she wants him to go. She guides him in that direction, and therefore he is compelled to follow. It is the same with you. Pulling the reins and using your hands and seat to change his direction and speed will tell him what you want, but will not always make him want to do as you have asked, in fact the more forceful signals you give, and the harsher bit you use, the more likely he is to want to fight back.

Using a hackamore will change the scene completely. You are still giving him the same signals, but you are asking him to work with you, not for you. Yes, he does have to work for you, but you have to work with him too. It is a partnership that must be mastered, but anyone that loves horses, as I'm sure you do, can master it with 4 main tools: Patience, Compassion, Knowledge and Imagination.

With the hackamore on, and using your legs and voice more than your hands, you will be surprised by the way he will respond. He may react an d play up a bit because you do not have as much control, but eventually he will settle into the hackamore and put his head down, ready to work with you. It is a game of patience, and it may take several trys, but it should work! :)

Obviously, I can't 100% garentee anything, unless I was there in person to help, but I can assure you I have done the same thing in a similar situation and it has worked a treat!

Hope you give it a go and it helps! Lemme know how it goes if you do!

Your Pal, Misty :)

Misty4ever & Ace
2013-03-11 18:39:16
lightning, most of the 'falling on face' is a balance thing. You are part of the problem. Do you know your balance point? Do some yoga and stretches for balance.
ParelliChick & Lady of the Mist
2013-03-11 19:08:00
Misty: Ok, I might try that. As I said before, I only need the pelham for jumping. I've ridden him in an eggbut snaffle on flat, and he was fine. He is just strong over fences. Once, Arrow, a 16 hh horse, got a 4 in a line, and I (on Mascot) got a 3. I probably should have gotten a 5. (he's 13hh)
Parelli: Your probably right.

lighting1 & Patchwork Prince
2013-03-11 22:09:42
Glad I could help, anytime! :)
- Misty :)

Misty4ever & Ace
2013-03-12 00:26:58
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